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IAM1
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 Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: OMFG WERE DOOMED |
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| On 26 november mad scientist are going to try to recreate the big bang. Using the large hadron collider in geneva. They say there's a small chance that they will create a black hole big enough to suck up the earth and the rest of the solar system in time. |
Hi tofukronos!
Did I miss the link that goes with this poll? Sure would like to see/read it if there is one? Peace.....IAM1 |
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Don't worry TK, the Ghostbusters already crossed the streams back in 1984. Not only was the event not malignant, it resulted in the destruction of the gigantic Stay Puff Marshmallow Demon. Thus, we have nothing to worry about and maybe something to look forward to, like getting rid of all these Burger King icons!
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| There's no link i got it from the tv giude. But maybe there's some more info on the bbc2 internet page. |
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Funny thing is they don't even know if the higgs field exist. And there hoping to find mass. Cause mass is necesary to create matter from energy. |
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Yeah, they've found some sort of indirect evidence for the Higgs, but they haven't directly detected it, yet. LHC was on track to find it. they had the energy and luminosity range needed to find it, in theory. The magnet blowing out was a set back, and now Fermilab may beat them to it. Following this drama is like a nerd Super Bowl. I admit, I'm interested 
Higgs is a big deal. Its pretty much the last particle needed to verify the Standard Model, from what I gather. |
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Maybe Cern will find "god" inside those teenie-tiny quarks, if released....
then what??? |
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| tofu_kronos wrote: |
| There's no link i got it from the tv giude. But maybe there's some more info on the bbc2 internet page. |
Hi tofukronos! Thanks, Peace...IAM1 |
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Hi dangermite! Thanks, the links were/are very helpful  . This sounds so interesting but I wonder why this type of experiment would be attempted at this stage in our evolution or limited understanding of particle physics at this time unless the government(s) and physicists know more than what they're telling the public  , which is highly likely, but then I wonder why it would be on the internet? I'm figuring they'll do some preliminary tests underground and then they'll take the experiment out to space and do testing there? Fooling around with subatomic particles and all that energy will be quite dangerous, I wonder how they plan on protecting every one? Oh well, if any one can answer any of my questions that would be great ....Peace......IAM1 |
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Its actually not as dangerous as it all sounds. The accelerator energy of the upgraded LHC will be ~14TeV (tera electronvolts). To put that in perspective, the kinetic energy of a flying mosquito is roughly 1 TeV. Granted, this energy is highly focused. But near-TeV scale high energy particle experiments have already been done, and are currently ongoing. Given the experimentally established lower bounds for the Higgs mass, these sorts of energies are needed to produce a Higgs.
While it is exciting to actually find a definite trace of the Higgs, in reality we've been smashing subatomic particles and making similar particles to the Higgs for many years now. For instance, the latest Physical Review Letters journal contains a paper on W-Z boson production. The W boson's mass is 80 GeV, and the lower bound for the Higgs is 114 GeV.
The "black holes" that LHC might create will have an incredibly short Schwarzschild radius. They would essentially be particulate, and would annihilate with the other collision products very soon after they were produced.
Here's an interesting article:
http://unisci.com/stories/20014/1001012.htm
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| dangermite wrote: |
Its actually not as dangerous as it all sounds. The accelerator energy of the upgraded LHC will be ~14TeV (tera electronvolts). To put that in perspective, the kinetic energy of a flying mosquito is roughly 1 TeV. Granted, this energy is highly focused. But near-TeV scale high energy particle experiments have already been done, and are currently ongoing. Given the experimentally established lower bounds for the Higgs mass, these sorts of energies are needed to produce a Higgs.
While it is exciting to actually find a definite trace of the Higgs, in reality we've been smashing subatomic particles and making similar particles to the Higgs for many years now. For instance, the latest Physical Review Letters journal contains a paper on W-Z boson production. The W boson's mass is 80 GeV, and the lower bound for the Higgs is 114 GeV.
The "black holes" that LHC might create will have an incredibly short Schwarzschild radius. They would essentially be particulate, and would annihilate with the other collision products very soon after they were produced.
Here's an interesting article:
http://unisci.com/stories/20014/1001012.htm
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http://focus.aps.org/story/v16/st12 |
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: horizon documentary watch it to learn more about it |
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before the atomic bomb was the scare that the whole world would blow up.. I don't know jack about particle physics but with things like black holes swallowing up the earth- this makes it highly interesting. Is this the GOD particle? Or is that something else
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: If the Earth isn't gobbled |
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This could be a very important first step to creating a gravity field capable of warping space. Even if you don't see the implications for space travel believe me it is and they will hide it from the civilian world just like they shelve every other great discovery from us.
It is my contention that the government of the United States had interstellar flight 1 year after they stole Tesla's work. They stole that before his body was cold.
What I think:
They have been spending 50 times the research money that the civilian world has been spending for the past 60 years. That should put them 3000 years ahead of us in every genre of science. then you must add in they steal and murder from civilian inventors and also for several reasons shelve civilian research, (national security is only 1 reason). Add to this they always have their hands out for free research hours from every college and university they can get to work on a project. That should put them 4500 years ahead of us.
Presently in the white civilian world they have sped up, slowed down and reversed the speed of light. Fired a particle into a tube and had a partical exit before the particle entered. They fired a particle into a Y shaped tube and had 2 particles exit. They have created an invisibility cloak, I could just keep going with this list. Now think, if they are 4500 years ahead of us, they could be the source of all the saucers, and created all these alien races and salted them all over the Solar System. Why would they do that?
It's very simple, There are exploded planets out there. A wealth of minerals. They need to weaponize space so they can stop someone from bringing back rare materials. Those weapons would be pointed at us. So, they create an enemy to get weapons into space. It's said if a civilian gets beyond a low Earth orbit they are going to blast him. Is that why the shuttle with the teacher on it disintegrate? Did she see something that she wasn't supposed to? Do not trust those that believe they are Elite.
Einstein was a disinformer, he was a patent clerk. since 1905 his work has been holding civilian science back. The inadiquicies of the Theory of Relativity has cause scientist to try to develope better theories like the string theory that subatomic particle researchers tried a while ago. Several scientist in other fields have found Relativity seriously flawed and are leaving it like rats on a sinking ship. Do you know inpenetrability has been disproved in the lab by many researchers? |
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