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Neal.
You're walking down a dark alley in a dangerous inner city area where there is a lot of vicious gang activity. As you stumble along in the dark alley, suddenly you see 6 big, tall angry looking men coming toward you and it's obvious they are carrying weapons.
Who would you rather have by your side at that moment?
(a) The Terminator
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| Of course, you warped people would have it no other way. No Duh |
Neal.
You're walking down a dark alley in a dangerous inner city area where there is a lot of vicious gang activity. As you stumble along in the dark alley, suddenly you see 6 big, tall angry looking men coming toward you and it's obvious they are carrying weapons.
Who would you rather have by your side at that moment?
(a) The Terminator
(b) Jesus Christ, Son of God |
(c) Wolverine
(d) Obi Won Kenobi
(e) some other fictitious being with supernatural powers |
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How about thinking clearly and not going down the "dark alley" in the first place?  |
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Before or after wetting my pants
Tom, have you stopped beating your wife,yet?
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Indeed halfabo. If heaven only had people in it that deserved to be there, Jesus would be sitting there all alone with His Father.
Interesting thought I've always had on that. Something tells me that the reason for all of this... ALL of this... creation, salvation, justification, heaven...
might be simply because the Father and the Son want some company.
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LOL, come on Tom, this is a joke, right? Do you really think God gets lonely? A being who has always been and always will be, who created everything, is almighty, and all powerful gets lonely? In my opinion this lowers God to mans level. Just like saying God has a long white beard. Good one Tom!
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Hello,
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Indeed halfabo. If heaven only had people in it that deserved to be there, Jesus would be sitting there all alone with His Father.
Interesting thought I've always had on that. Something tells me that the reason for all of this... ALL of this... creation, salvation, justification, heaven...
might be simply because the Father and the Son want some company.
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LOL, come on Tom, this is a joke, right? Do you really think God gets lonely? A being who has always been and always will be, who created everything, is almighty, and all powerful gets lonely? In my opinion this lowers God to mans level. Just like saying God has a long white beard. Good one Tom!
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I think these are very good points Item7, and good reasoning for man
creating god in his own image. |
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Hello,
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Indeed halfabo. If heaven only had people in it that deserved to be there, Jesus would be sitting there all alone with His Father.
Interesting thought I've always had on that. Something tells me that the reason for all of this... ALL of this... creation, salvation, justification, heaven...
might be simply because the Father and the Son want some company.
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LOL, come on Tom, this is a joke, right? Do you really think God gets lonely? A being who has always been and always will be, who created everything, is almighty, and all powerful gets lonely? In my opinion this lowers God to mans level. Just like saying God has a long white beard. Good one Tom!
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I never gave it much thought. However, is wanting company the same as being lonely? |
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Yes qmark exactly my thinking. And it's what I wrote. God wants our company. The Bible is clear about that. I never said, and the Bible never said, that God is lonely, or needs us on any level.
Item7, all I did was contemplate the possibility of God doing all this just to have our company, but, I never said that is what is true.
The old man with white beard thing was your doing, but, there's nothing wrong in any of us imagining what He looks like. In fact, I once prayed to God and told Him I couldn't wait to give Him a big hug. A question came to me... "Oh yeah? What if God doesn't look like you think He looks? What if God looked like a giant bug (which I have a phobia of), what would you do then?" And in my mind's eye, I imagined hugging Him and kissing Him anyway and said I didn't care what He looks like I'm going to love Him always.
When I did that I felt what I can only describe as, and assume was, a gentle touch by the Holy Spirit in acknowledgement. |
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| I groc (Stranger in a Strange Land, Heinlein) |
Luckily, those who might do damage with such knowledge can't truly grok it.
They think they do but they have no real power.
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There are some religions out there who teach that there is no such thing as Hell. Some teach that hell is the only the grave. Some teach that hell is a place where souls are burned up in an instant. But that is not what the bible teaches. Today, I am going to demonstrate though the word of God that hell is a literal place of torment.
Where is hell?
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
(KJV)
Hell is down. Most bible scholars believe that it is in the center of the earth.
Mt 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
(KJV)
Jesus's body remained on the earth, but His Spirit went to the heart of the earth, or center. Where is the heart of something located? In the center.
What is Hell?
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Hell is a prison. It is a prison for those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. Hell is no laughing matter. There is no party in hell.
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. {strange: Gr. other}
(KJV)
Lu 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
First of all notice that this man was not happy. It says that he was tormented in this FLAME. Hell is fire. It is an eternal flame that never goes out.
Mr 9:3 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: {offend...: or, cause thee to offend}
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: {offend...: or, cause thee to offend}
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: {offend...: or, cause thee to offend}
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
It says where their worm dieth not and the FIRE is NOT quenched. Hell is eternal torment by fire.
Hell is outer darkness. There is no light there. It is pitch black, forever.
Mt 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mt 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Lu 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Who goes to hell, and what is after hell?
Re 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(KJV)
One day after everyone has been judged, hell and death will be cast into the lake of fire.
Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The devil is going to be cast into the lake of fire. Notice that it is a place of torment and that torment never ends.
Re 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
(KJV)
Those who reject Jesus Christ and accept the mark of the beast are going to the lake of fire.
Re 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
(KJV)
Those who reject Jesus Christ won't be found written in the book of life. They also will be cast into the lake of fire.
There is only one way out. That way is Jesus Christ.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Who is God willing to save from hell and the lake of fire?
Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How do we do this?
Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Ro 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
The bible says that whosoever believeth on Him shall NOT be ashamed. Are you willing to accept Jesus Christ today to be your Savior? Don't be ashamed. Raise your hand right now if you want Jesus Christ to save you and someone will show you from the bible, God's word how you can know without a doubt that you will go to heaven when you die and that you won't have to go to this place called hell.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
God is willing to save ANYONE no matter what you have done, if you will simply call upon upon Jesus Christ to save you. Will you do that today?
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Your part and parcel of G-d realizing Himself in Himself...jus' 'cause He feels like it....nya.
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Hello,
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Indeed halfabo. If heaven only had people in it that deserved to be there, Jesus would be sitting there all alone with His Father.
Interesting thought I've always had on that. Something tells me that the reason for all of this... ALL of this... creation, salvation, justification, heaven...
might be simply because the Father and the Son want some company.
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LOL, come on Tom, this is a joke, right? Do you really think God gets lonely? A being who has always been and always will be, who created everything, is almighty, and all powerful gets lonely? In my opinion this lowers God to mans level. Just like saying God has a long white beard. Good one Tom!
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I think these are very good points Item7, and good reasoning for man
creating god in his own image. |
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| Of course, you warped people would have it no other way. No Duh |
Neal.
You're walking down a dark alley in a dangerous inner city area where there is a lot of vicious gang activity. As you stumble along in the dark alley, suddenly you see 6 big, tall angry looking men coming toward you and it's obvious they are carrying weapons.
Who would you rather have by your side at that moment?
(a) The Terminator
(b) Jesus Christ, Son of God |
(c) Wolverine
(d) Obi Won Kenobi
(e) some other fictitious being with supernatural powers |
It's comfoimed - Handie Mole believes in a fiction... |
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