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Questioner101
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Wonder what they would come up with, if they tested the "Ha'j", the "Dome of the Rock" and "The Stone of Scone?"
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Wonder what they would come up with, if they tested the "Ha'j", the "Dome of the Rock" and "The Stone of Scone?"
(Maybe that's why the ancient people carry them around with them....it was their ancestor.) |
I've often wondered about that rock. Isn't it actually a meteorite supposedly found by Abraham?  "Dome of the Rock", very cool Q101.  |
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Hey, it’s only Tuesday and we already have what I can call as the worst headline of the week!
I posted the story the other day about organic matter found on a meteorite. Some compounds necessary for life were already known to be in the rock, but it was conclusively shown that they were native to the meteorite and did not seep in after it hit the Earth. This means that perhaps the first basic building blocks of life fell from space (though I was careful to point out that they also could have been made here on Earth as well).
So yesterday Popular Science posted an article on this topic. Their headline?
"Genetic Material Found on Meteorite"
Ouch! When I read something like that, I’m thinking DNA, not the basic molecules DNA uses. That’s a poor choice of words.
It doesn’t get better with the subtitle, either: "A meteorite in Australia has been found to contain component molecules of DNA ". That’s clearer, a bit, but still murky; the letters DNA kinda leap out, and squash the component molecules part.
The article itself is fine; I’ll note that usually headlines for papers and magazines are not written by the authors.
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| Simeon...simeon!...We are simeon, evolved into Sentient Beings by the Grace of Light. |
From Jan08 to now , He is still a simeon 
Evolution sure takes time |
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If the universe is 14.3 billion years old and this solar system is only 4to5
billion years old. We exist from prior stellar nova/super nova due to all the
heavy elements that exist around us and in us and god in us.
Feces occurrs, life happens  |
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It looks like metorites have been sacred objects for many people. Not only do the muslims keep one, but the Americans indians seem to have one too.
I found this artical from 2000 about a tribe claiming ownership to one.
New York - A group of American Indians says a 16-ton meteorite that will be the main attraction at the Museum of Natural History's new planetarium is a holy tribal object and should be returned to Oregon.
The meteorite - about the size of a small car - will be displayed in the planetarium's main hall when it opens Saturday.
The meteorite hit Earth more than 10 000 years ago and was moved by glacial ice to a hillside in West Linn, Oregon. The Clackamas tribe adopted it as a sacred object, and the rain water that collected in its deep craters was prized for its holiness.
"Songs given to us by the meteorite are still sung today," said Ryan Heavy Head, a consultant to the Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde, which includes the Clackamas.
He said the meteorite called "Tomanoas" by the Indians embodies three heavenly realms - sky, earth and water. Clackamas youths were sent on vigils to the meteorite to await messages from the spirit world and other tribes also made pilgrimages, said Heavy Head, a Blackfoot.
Heres the whole artical
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?sf=31&click_id=31&art_id=qw95096406082B225&set_id=1
Perhaps these ancient people knew something about these space visitors that science is just now finding out. I've said for years, as a joke, that the missing link is alien. Maybe it is.
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-- A federal judge says the University of California can deny course credit to applicants from Christian high schools whose textbooks declare the Bible infallible and reject evolution.
Rejecting claims of religious discrimination and stifling of free expression, U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles said UC's review committees cited legitimate reasons for rejecting the texts - not because they contained religious viewpoints, but because they omitted important topics in science and history and failed to teach critical thinking.
Otero's ruling Friday, which focused on specific courses and texts, followed his decision in March that found no anti-religious bias in the university's system of reviewing high school classes. Now that the lawsuit has been dismissed, a group of Christian schools has appealed Otero's rulings to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.
"It appears the UC is attempting to secularize private religious schools," attorney Jennifer Monk of Advocates for Faith and Freedom said Tuesday. Her clients include the Association of Christian Schools International, two Southern California high schools and several students.
Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, said the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations." What the plaintiffs seek, he said, is a "religious exemption from regular admissions standards."
The suit, filed in 2005, challenged UC's review of high school courses taken by would-be applicants to the 10-campus system. Most students qualify by taking an approved set of college preparatory classes; students whose courses lack UC approval can remain eligible by scoring well in those subjects on the Scholastic Assessment Test.
Christian schools in the suit accused the university of rejecting courses that include any religious viewpoint, "any instance of God's guidance of history, or any alternative ... to evolution."
But Otero said in March that the university has approved many courses containing religious material and viewpoints, including some that use such texts as "Chemistry for Christian Schools" and "Biology: God's Living Creation," or that include scientific discussions of creationism as well as evolution.
UC denies credit to courses that rely largely or entirely on material stressing supernatural over historic or scientific explanations, though it has approved such texts as supplemental reading, the judge said.
For example, in Friday's ruling, he upheld the university's rejection of a history course called Christianity's Influence on America. According to a UC professor on the course review committee, the primary text, published by Bob Jones University, "instructs that the Bible is the unerring source for analysis of historical events" and evaluates historical figures based on their religious motivations.
Another rejected text, "Biology for Christian Schools," declares on the first page that "if (scientific) conclusions contradict the Word of God, the conclusions are wrong," Otero said.
He also said the Christian schools presented no evidence that the university's decisions were motivated by hostility to religion.
UC attorney Christopher Patti said Tuesday that the judge assessed the review process accurately.
"We evaluate the courses to see whether they prepare these kids to come to college at UC," he said. "There was no evidence that these students were in fact denied the ability to come to the university."
But Monk, the plaintiffs' lawyer, said Otero had used the wrong legal standard and had given the university too much deference.
"Science courses from a religious perspective are not approved," she said. "If it comes from certain publishers or from a religious perspective, UC simply denies them."
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"David Campbell switched on the overhead projector and wrote “Evolution” in the rectangle of light on the screen.
He scanned the faces of the sophomores in his Biology I class. Many of them, he knew from years of teaching high school in this Jacksonville suburb, had been raised to take the biblical creation story as fact. His gaze rested for a moment on Bryce Haas, a football player who attended the 6 a.m. prayer meetings of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes in the school gymnasium.
“If I do this wrong,” Mr. Campbell remembers thinking on that humid spring morning, “I’ll lose him.”
In February, the Florida Department of Education modified its standards to explicitly require, for the first time, the state’s public schools to teach evolution, calling it “the organizing principle of life science.” Spurred in part by legal rulings against school districts seeking to favor religious versions of natural history, over a dozen other states have also given more emphasis in recent years to what has long been the scientific consensus: that all of the diverse life forms on Earth descended from a common ancestor, through a process of mutation and natural selection, over billions of years.
But in a nation where evangelical Protestantism and other religious traditions stress a literal reading of the biblical description of God’s individually creating each species, students often arrive at school fearing that evolution, and perhaps science itself, is hostile to their faith.
Passionate on the subject, Mr. Campbell had helped to devise the state’s new evolution standards, which will be phased in starting this fall. A former Navy flight instructor not used to pulling his punches, he fought hard for their passage. But with his students this spring, he found himself treading carefully, as he tried to bridge an ideological divide that stretches well beyond his classroom."
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| Simeon...simeon!...We are simeon, evolved into Sentient Beings by the Grace of Light. |
From Jan08 to now , He is still a simeon
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| so if we keep evolving then what will we evolve into?we will end up having oversized fingers because of the amount of texting and time spent on a keyboard!! |
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| so if we keep evolving then what will we evolve into?we will end up having oversized fingers because of the amount of texting and time spent on a keyboard!! |
...depending on the angle of the light, more mature spirits than what we are. |
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Is that the "Buddy Christ" from Dogma? 
I'm sure Matt Damon can tell us. He's a world expert on all things Christian. |
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