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Mr_TopSecret00X
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there is alot of factors im unsure about that could flaw the whole system. as in whats the output ratio? would say 100mil or salt water be enought to run a engine for a few hours? or would it only last five mins. whats the chemical byproduct to burning this salt water?
funny side, can u imaigane if some one took that idea to saltlake rofl haha KA BOOOM  |
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Nice Video. This guy is a freekin genius.  |
Hi Mr_TopSecret! I'm glad you enjoy the video. I think he's a genius too! |
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Thanks MrTS! I appreciate that, and if you like my views I bet you share some or a lot of them? Your link for the map did not work, could you repost another link because I'm very interested in seeing this map. Thanks again I did totally enjoy the videos at that other link you left before/earlier on this thread, it/they were great! Thanks |
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there is alot of factors im unsure about that could flaw the whole system. as in whats the output ratio? would say 100mil or salt water be enought to run a engine for a few hours? or would it only last five mins. whats the chemical byproduct to burning this salt water?
funny side, can u imaigane if some one took that idea to saltlake rofl haha KA BOOOM |
Hi IMPINC! Yeah, I know what you're saying and you'd have to be scientifically inclined and motivated as he, the inventor was/is to happen upon the burning of the salt water while trying to find a cure for his wife's cancer. I'm not sure what the byproduct would be, but I think that it's probably nothing but a combination of heated residual molecules from the salt water. It's worth doing some further investigation into his inventions IMO. Let us know if you find anything, ok? I'll try to see if I can get anymore info. on this too. |
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There is no doubt that John Kansas managed to break through the iron veil which prevents this type of 'forbidden' technology from making national news. He was genuine in his attempt to find a way to target cancer cells using the low power of radio frequencies. This very same technology, a bit more complex was demonstrated by Stanley Meyers in his water powered dune buggy 15 years ago. Dozens of other researchers have hit up this simple solution to break the covalent bonds of basic mass like water.
One big reason that 'The Powers That Be' don't want to encourage this kind of technology, can be found by watching John Hutchinson demonstrate his `Hutchinson effect' on various materials by using something very similar to the Kansas device.
Anti-Gravity,
Invisibility
Molecular dissolution
are three of the main reasons TPTB would not want your average Joe to have this in his garage!!!
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The average joe cannot run the emitter he is using in their garage.
And this is a great invention, cool, fun too look at, and let me know when it gives off more energy than it requires too engage the reaction. Untill then it is useless for anything other than a show.
See, the science behind it says the only reason it does it in his lab and not everywere there is radiowaves (everywere) is becaused they need too be in a very large concentration, the emitter he is using is giving off more energy than the flame is producing even if you were too capture the heat with 100% efficiency.
The reason that this will never go anywhere is basic chemistry, the reaction is endothermic. The fuel we burn in internal combustion engines is exothermic when combusted, so we are able to harness the energy it gives off. This will never be so with this invention unfortunately, simply because it will always require more than the energy it has contained in itself in order to react. |
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| The problem with salt water fuel is that it emits the single most dangerous greenhouse gas...WATER VAPOR. |
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A bigger problem still is it has a negative net energy emission, being endothermic and all.
You can run water vapour through a condenser and since water at atmospheric pressure and temperature will remain mostly liquid you can nearly completely eliminate this problem. |
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There is no doubt that John Kansas managed to break through the iron veil which prevents this type of 'forbidden' technology from making national news. He was genuine in his attempt to find a way to target cancer cells using the low power of radio frequencies. This very same technology, a bit more complex was demonstrated by Stanley Meyers in his water powered dune buggy 15 years ago. Dozens of other researchers have hit up this simple solution to break the covalent bonds of basic mass like water.
One big reason that 'The Powers That Be' don't want to encourage this kind of technology, can be found by watching John Hutchinson demonstrate his `Hutchinson effect' on various materials by using something very similar to the Kansas device.
Anti-Gravity,
Invisibility
Molecular dissolution
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Hi Red Dog! To my knowledge, Stanley Myers was murdered/assassinated by department of energy (oil company elitists) or CIA covert agents. I remember having made a post about it   .
'Stan Meyer's had spoken repeatedly about how he was being threatened by oil companies, but refused to bow to their wishes of abandoning the project.'
If I recall correctly "they" poisoned him during a lunch meeting over his invention! Check out the information on/at this link below:
http://easygrowhouseplants.blogspot.com/2006/12/inventor-of-water-powered-car-murdered.html
Find more information here:
Water Car Inventor (Stanley Meyer) Murdered
Sat, 10 Jun 2006
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/112/5226/2006-06-08.asp?wid=112&nid=522
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This short video is regarding an inventor named Stanley Meyers who died in 1998 of a mysterious case of food poisoning (most likely a murder). He claims he was offered 1 billion by the Arabs to just sit on the technology, to which he refused; so a planned murder of this man would seem likely. This is not Denny Klein of Hydrogen Technologies who was the inventor featured in my last health Newsletter, who has invented a car that can run on water. These technologies are the biggest threat there is to the Petrochemical industry and as a result are all suppressed. There have been many people to come forth with these types of inventions. To my knowledge either the inventor is bought out or mysteriously dies without exception.
Water Car Inventor Murdered - Google Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800
Notice of Death of Stanley Meyer
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/meyerx.htm
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Water Fuel Experimenter and Team Threatened
June 2, 2006
Ken Rasmussen's research team has been working on a process that turns out to have similarities to the super-efficient electrolysis process being developed by Professor Kanarev. Rasmussen's work ceased after a member of the team was threatened at gunpoint.
by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
VENTURA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, USA -- On May 16, a technician who was one of a team of garage experimenters investigating a hydrogen-on-demand technology was run off the road near a rural intersection and accosted by four white, middle-aged males in black suits, carrying Glocks and Mac tens. The assailants were driving a late model, black Lincoln Town Car.
This comes just one month after Bill Williams was similarly threatened because of his alleged experimentation with running a vehicle on a Joe cell.
The victim in this latest incident is an associate of New Energy Congress member, Ken Rasmussen, who had been working together with him on the project. Rasmussen also runs an alternative energy news service at http://www.commutefaster.com/Energy.html
A week before the incident, Rasmussen learned of the work being done by Professor Kanarev in Russia. Both use a pulsed signal, and both were seeing similar performance rates. Kanarev holds multiple patents, and is widely published. A day before the incident, a person who was interested in funding the project of Rasmussen et al., and who had been trying to reach him since November, had finally made contact.
Rasmussen reported the incident for the first time publicly in his news today. He said, "As editor of this page, my life has now been threatened by 2 loaded guns pointed in the face of a good friend."
"Using information which could only have been obtained by monitoring digital cell phones and e-mail, the assailants portrayed to the victim that they had total control over his personal life, and was told to remain silent and to not talk to government authorities." He was told that if he did not comply, a family member would be killed. The assailants produced extensive details about this target family member. The threat also included himself, his family and all associates if he did not stop work on the process immediately. The threats made actually applied broadly to anyone working on overunity.
"I'm breaking the story to warn others who might be involved in similar technologies," said Rasmussen.
Obeying the threats made to him, the person threatened has stopped all work on the project. "When happy people start acting silent and paranoid, friends get suspicious," said Rasmussen, who waited to publish this account until the necessary measures had been taken to protect the lives of those directly threatened in the incident.
At the time of the assault, Rasmussen had been in discussion with several pre-screened, suitable investors, who were waiting on Rasmussen's team to fix a final detail before attending a live demonstration.
Rasmussen addressed them publicly in today's report, saying: "For any of my previous business contacts reading this, please excuse the delay. Our lives have been directly threatened if we were to complete the item we were intending to demonstrate for you. All progress is stopped" . . . for now.
"Enormous amounts of personal information thrown in our face behind the guns proved to me NONE of the prospective investors had anything to do with the violence we experienced. These thugs knew things I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. Their boss has digital cell phone tapping technology at the very least. Other details were probably obtained by wire tapping neighbors and friend's phones too."
In closing, Rasmussen said, "We have this kind warning to fellow experimenters who try to challenge the conventional physics being taught to students around the world. Challenge the system, the system that says oil is god, and there are paid mafia goons all over the world who will stop you for a few measly dollars. We know, because we met their guns face to face. Please continue your noble research, but PLEASE PLEASE watch your backside."
Rasmussen's words to the assailants were that if anyone were harmed, the plans for this technology would be plastered all over the Internet. He believes that cowering to bullies is not good policy [I totally agree! We all need to plaster this information all over the internet and more!].
http://pesn.com/2006/06/02/9500276_Water_fuel_experimenter_threatened/
[I'm posting this information again for anyone who wants to know what we are all discussing on this thread:]
June 23, 2005
This short video is regarding an inventor named Stanley Meyers who died in 1998 of a mysterious case of food poisoning (most likely a murder). He claims he was offered 1 billion by the Arabs to just sit on the technology, to which he refused; so a planned murder of this man would seem likely. This is not Denny Klein of Hydrogen Technologies who was the inventor of a car that can run on water. These technologies are the biggest threat there is to the Petrochemical industry and as a result are all suppressed by the powers that be aka DOE, etc. There have been many people to come forth with these types of inventions. To my knowledge either the inventor is bought out or mysteriously dies without exception.
Water Car Inventor Murdered - Google Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800
Notice of Death of Stanley Meyer
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/meyerx.htm
Thanks Red Dog for your input and comments too!
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The powers that be don't just "eliminate" anyone! The PTB have an agenda and their agenda does not work with someones discovery which is linked to free energy in relation to the BIG OIL INDUSTRY control and profit! Any invention that threatens their profits and control will be snuffed out asap! That's why all of these inventors and their inventions have been eliminated! We live in a world that is manipulated and controlled by a few wealthy greedy psychopathic global elitists! - Who will eliminate whoever, or whatever stands or gets in their way  . |
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| Well that may be so, but this guy is fine using that logic. Because, to date, he, nor anyone else, has derived a plan for making this endothermic reaction yield a positive net energy emission. |
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| Well that may be so, but this guy is fine using that logic. Because, to date, he, nor anyone else, has derived a plan for making this endothermic reaction yield a positive net energy emission. |
He may have been able to reach that state/condition/reaction in his work, and it is not being revealed for various reasons. All we can do is wait and watch what happens to him and his invention/discoveries, etc. Remember, The Powers That Be have the power to suppress any information and technological discovery which threatens their power/control in this world! |
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Maybe certain technologies, like the ones that they fund. But not research done by everyday universities etc. They can flex their economic muscle and buy copyrights or perhaps off the owner failing that, but they have no way of suppressing information on the open internet we are connected too unless they also have made sure that ISPs only allow access to certain sites, which is pretty easy too tell. Since you can go to places like ThePirateBay.org or TheBlackVault.com (not similiar in legal nature at all btw).
In short I'd be worried about him not saying it because they have bought him off, or if he has a bad "accident" but I wouldn't worry too much about information being suppressed that they don't have exclussive knowledge of.
However, getting energy from combusting salt water with radiowaves won't ever be efficient, it's like trying to boil water on a stove to use steam to turn a little turbine to run a light, best way I can think to explain it.
Cool invention, but of little effect to the energy world. |
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SRO, I haven't looked it up yet. Is the difference in power I/O small enough to be made up by using small solar panels? If so, it would definitely be a viable technology in any area that receives enough sunlight.
Um, it could be problematic in bad weather, and would definitely cut down on night driving. Oh well, can't have everything, I suppose. |
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