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Very sad, but I can't say I'm surprised at all.
Use 'em and then throw them aside. Don't say nutin' and CYA. Yup Standard Operating Procedure, for sure.
Expendable crew members, and don't think for a second that we're not all just expendable as well... |
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This goes for all vaccines. It's Russian Roulette.
Vaccine theory is fundamentally flawed. Right from the start.
Do whatever you have to do to stop the 'vaccines' for yourselves and your cares.
Especially your kids! Don't give them the chance to screw them up for their lives.
In a nutshell vaccines are a useful and convenient way for the petro-pharmaceutical industry to cripple people (your kids) and have life-long customers. Unbelievable? Maybe. But unfortunately it is true.
Those poor grunts in the military can't opt out. But if you are faced with a jab of a 'vaccine' then the best you can do is to make sure you are very well nourished before and after the jab, and if your immune system is even the slightest bit compromised then try to put it off until you are in the peak of health.
Vaccines always cause damage, but if you are less than perfectly healthy then your chances of getting autism, epilepsy, eczema, food allergies, learning disabilities etc... will be significantly higher.
I reckon around half of my young students have vaccine-damage. One case was a boy of 8 who lost his hearing soon after a vaccination. Now he does most of his learning by lip-reading.
Don't do it! I can't stop you, but I wish I could. The vacs are poison. |
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This goes for all vaccines. It's Russian Roulette.
Vaccine theory is fundamentally flawed. Right from the start.
Do whatever you have to do to stop the 'vaccines' for yourselves and your cares.
Especially your kids! Don't give them the chance to screw them up for their lives.
In a nutshell vaccines are a useful and convenient way for the petro-pharmaceutical industry to cripple people (your kids) and have life-long customers. Unbelievable? Maybe. But unfortunately it is true.
Those poor grunts in the military can't opt out. But if you are faced with a jab of a 'vaccine' then the best you can do is to make sure you are very well nourished before and after the jab, and if your immune system is even the slightest bit compromised then try to put it off until you are in the peak of health.
Vaccines always cause damage, but if you are less than perfectly healthy then your chances of getting autism, epilepsy, eczema, food allergies, learning disabilities etc... will be significantly higher.
I reckon around half of my young students have vaccine-damage. One case was a boy of 8 who lost his hearing soon after a vaccination. Now he does most of his learning by lip-reading.
Don't do it! I can't stop you, but I wish I could. The vacs are poison. |
Up until the end of last year I was doubtful of your claims about how bad vaccines are.
Late last year a friend of mine was going to be traveling internationally for the holidays, so she and her husband went and got all their vaccines about a month before they left. She has been sick ever since, her husband was, but he seems to have come around to being almost healthy again.
Within a week of having her vaccines, she came down with what she at first thought was just a bad flu. This "bad flu" progressed to the point where she was barely able to function for several months. Every time she thinks she has it beat, it comes back again. She hasn't had more than a few weeks of stable health for the past eight months. Whatever was in the vaccines seems to have wreaked havoc on her immune system.
Having seen what she's gone through since getting her vaccines (she was quite healthy before getting them btw), it'll be a cold day in hell before I get any. |
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Late last year a friend of mine was going to be traveling internationally for the holidays, so she and her husband went and got all their vaccines about a month before they left. She has been sick ever since, her husband was, but he seems to have come around to being almost healthy again.
Within a week of having her vaccines, she came down with what she at first thought was just a bad flu. This "bad flu" progressed to the point where she was barely able to function for several months. Every time she thinks she has it beat, it comes back again. She hasn't had more than a few weeks of stable health for the past eight months. Whatever was in the vaccines seems to have wreaked havoc on her immune system.
Having seen what she's gone through since getting her vaccines (she was quite healthy before getting them btw), it'll be a cold day in hell before I get any. |
What a horrific nightmare. Isn't there some kind of recourse? |
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I've heard some speculation that vaccines were a cause of Gulf War Syndrome.
Ninor, may I make a few suggestions for your friend? Well, I'm gonna anyway. 
Sunlight, for vitamin D.
Fish oil, for omega 3s taken after eating. In the winter, cod liver oil for the vitamin D.
Fermented food, for their probiotic qualities. Much of our natural healing is done in the gut. The only way we can do that is by getting good bacteria in there through either probiotic pills or homemade fermented food. Here is a website about that to start with:
http://www.wildfermentation.com/
Last, but not least, they put mercury in vaccines as a preservative. There is an algae called chlorella that is supposed to help get rid of heavy metals like mercury. You can get them in pill form at a health food store.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorella |
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I've heard some speculation that vaccines were a cause of Gulf War Syndrome.
Ninor, may I make a few suggestions for your friend? Well, I'm gonna anyway.
Sunlight, for vitamin D.
Fish oil, for omega 3s taken after eating. In the winter, cod liver oil for the vitamin D.
Fermented food, for their probiotic qualities. Much of our natural healing is done in the gut. The only way we can do that is by getting good bacteria in there through either probiotic pills or homemade fermented food. Here is a website about that to start with:
http://www.wildfermentation.com/
Last, but not least, they put mercury in vaccines as a preservative. There is an algae called chlorella that is supposed to help get rid of heavy metals like mercury. You can get them in pill form at a health food store.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorella |
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I'm sorry about your friends, Ninor.
I sincerely hope you can spread the word. Even if it is only to your own kin.
May you never suffer the sadness of a loved one's death as a result of a vaccine - like some of us have. 
... Once bitten etc... .
... "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" etc ... .
All of them! Don't touch them. let them 'vaccinate' your cares over your dead body or if you are being restrained with a gun at your head.
* The ones with 'Fish oil' instead of mercury are WORSE! |
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| What a horrific nightmare. Isn't there some kind of recourse? |
* If you are the average Joe Blow then the answer is no. Or don't count on it.
The vaccines are BIG money for the petro-pharmaceutical mobsters. - Like planting a money-tree. |
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| * The ones with 'Fish oil' instead of mercury are WORSE! |
Info please? I haven't heard about those.
I did read an article about the new female vaccine. What a total waste! The article I read was in the NY times. Basically it said that the vaccine only fights 70% of the viri, they don't know how long it will last, it prevents your body from naturally fighting the virus, its between $400-$1,000 for 3 shots, and you still need pap smears and can still get cancer. What the hell is the purpose?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/health/21vaccine.html?hp
Oh, and now they're vaccinating against chicken pox....ugg!
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Use the word 'squalene' and other words you like in a search. |
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Thanks Maelstrom. I googled squalene and vaccine and lookie what I found.
http://www.chiroweb.com/mpacms/dc/article.php?id=31995
FDA Tests Find Squalene in Anthrax Vaccine
Government Admits Banned Substance Exists in Vaccines, but Maintains It Does No Harm
By Michael Devitt
After years of repeated obfuscation, the federal government finally admitted that a banned chemical additive linked to the Gulf War syndrome has been found in some of the vaccines developed to protect military personnel from biological attack.
This October, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) contradicted previous statements made by the government when he said that "trace amounts" of squalene were found in several lots of a vaccine used to protect troops from anthrax, a deadly infectious agent, during a recent series of tests by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, he denied that squalene had been deliberately used in the making of the vaccine, saying instead that "it's not something that's been added to the vaccine that we give our troops."
A naturally occurring substance, squalene is produced by the liver to help metabolize cholesterol and combat physical injuries. It is found in shark liver oil, some vegetable oils, cosmetics and various nutritional supplements.
Since the 1980s, squalene has also been studied by the DoD and the National Institutes of Health as an adjuvant to boost the efficacy of certain vaccines. However, because animal studies have shown that squalene adjuvants may generate unwanted side effects, including autoimmune versions of arthritis, multiple sclerosis and other conditions, the FDA has never approved the general use of any vaccine containing squalene in the United States.
The safety of squalene as a vaccine adjuvant, and the possibility that it was used illegally on military personnel, were called into question last year when a professor at Tulane University conducted a study of more than 400 Gulf War veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome (GWS) - a condition characterized by general fatigue, joint pain, memory loss, an inability to concentrate, and other ailments.1 Ninety-five percent of those who exhibited symptoms of GWS had high levels of squalene antibodies in their blood. Many of the samples that tested positive for squalene were taken from soldiers who were not deployed to the Persian Gulf but still received the anthrax vaccine.
In a follow-up study published earlier this year, a Tennessee immunologist confirmed the findings of the Tulane study and concluded that the mysterious illnesses suffered by Gulf War veterans could have been caused by exposure to additives in vaccines.2 This conclusion was vehemently contested by Pentagon officials, who maintained that squalene was never used in the making of the anthrax vaccine, and that even it were present, it would not cause soldiers to become sick.
As early as this March, the FDA began releasing preliminary information stating that low levels of squalene had indeed been detected in some anthrax vaccines. In a written statement delivered during congressional hearings into the safety of the anthrax vaccine on March 20, the FDA said that test results showed "squalene content was determined to be in a level of low parts-per-billion and was comparable to levels determined in three other lots of the anthrax vaccine."3
On September 28, the FDA released another report showing that trace amounts of squalene were found in five lots of the anthrax vaccine. The FDA did not make clear whether the lots that contained squalene were the same lots used to inoculate troops during the Gulf War, or whether they are being used in the current anthrax vaccination program. A spokesperson for the FDA also declined to comment on any potential health problems associated with the vaccine.
As late as this October, however, the DoD was still insisting that squalene "is not in the anthrax vaccine" and that the substance "has not been used in vaccines ... for a considerable period of time."3
On October 4, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon, speaking at a DoD news briefing, was asked about the FDA's licensure of the anthrax vaccine:
"Well, the anthrax vaccine has been used safely for 30 years," Bacon said. "It was approved for use in 1970 by the FDA. It remains a safe vaccine. All the lots we have administered to the troops have been approved by the FDA for release. So they have reviewed them, and what they've told us is that they have not found squalene in those lots."
When told by the news media of the FDA's announcement in March that squalene had indeed been found in several lots of anthrax vaccine, Bacon quickly put a halt to the briefing, excused himself, then returned several minutes later with "new" information.
"Apparently, my briefing book had not caught up to the science on squalene," Bacon said. "... A few minutes ago, I said the FDA had assured us that there wasn't (squalene in the anthrax vaccine). It turns out within the last month, the methods of discovering squalene have improved, and we've moved to be able to discover it."4
"We don't know whether those lots were administered to the troops," Bacon continued, "but the important thing is that it was not added. If it's in there, it's in there as a naturally occurring substance ... but it's not something that's been added to the vaccine that we give our troops."
While the exact amount of squalene found in the vaccines was termed "miniscule" by Bacon, the fact that any squalene was found was more than enough to irritate Representative Jack Metcalf (R-WA), an opponent of the military's mandatory anthrax vaccination program.
"We've been told for three years there is no squalene in the anthrax vaccine," said an exasperated Metcalf, "then suddenly we are told, 'Oh yes, it's there, but it's no big deal: it's everywhere.'"5
Bacon's statement has prompted the House Government Reform Committee to instruct the General Accounting Office to investigate, asking the GAO to determine how squalene got into the vaccine, how dangerous it might be to human subjects, and what research is being done to determine and combat any potential side-effects.
According to the latest figures from the American Gulf War Veterans Association, 487,098 members of the military have received at least one dose of the anthrax vaccine. Of those receiving at least one dose, 1,152 people - approximately one in every 423 persons inoculated - have reported an adverse reaction.
A review by the Department of Health and Human Services earlier this year found that 592 cases were either "certainly" or "probably" caused by the vaccine, with 123 cases classified as "serious" and 10 requiring hospitalization due to an allergic or inflammatory response. Approximately 400 other personnel have either resigned from the military or faced disciplinary action rather than take the vaccine.6
References
Mackenzie D. Victims of vaccines. New Scientist April 10, 1999.
Asa PB, Cao Y, Garry R. Antibodies to squalene in Gulf War syndrome. Experimental and Molecular Pathology February 2000;68(1):55-64.
Department of Defense news briefing, October 4, 2000. Available from M2 Communications (http://www.m2.com).
Ibid.
Government now admits traces of chemical in anthrax vaccines. Alternative Medicine Newsletter October 6, 2000.
Evenson AJ, Martin T. Medical examiner links death to anthrax vaccine. Lansing State Journal September 28, 2000. |
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Harsh.
I was going too Join the military actually, I decided against it though, since I think something big is going too happen and I don't think it's going too be a foreign enemy when it does, the last place I'd want too be is in the Military if it does go down.
And this is just harsh. I wonder if we get that sort of bullshite here in the Canadian armed forces? |
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SRO, I considered the military after high school. I realized at the time that it would have been hypocritical of me, a pacifist, to join an organization whose mission is to murder. I've never regretted that choice. In fact, the more information I learn about the military and how they're treated, the more I wish no teenager ever joined.
As far as Canadians getting experimental vaccines, I'm sure you guys do too.
Here is one Canadian who refused the shot.
http://www.rense.com/political/weapons/canadiananth.htm
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