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Bear23
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| Science is though equally blind as religions because they donīt want to know other things other than their own beliefs which makes them both unlikely in themselves... |
I have to disagree with this statement. Science is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Because of this the whole purpose is to learn all we can about the world, not just what we believe. I will not deny, however, that there are close-minded people who don't want to know anything other than there own beliefs, but these people can never be scientists because of that. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| Bear23 wrote: |
| Saturos wrote: |
| Science is though equally blind as religions because they donīt want to know other things other than their own beliefs which makes them both unlikely in themselves... |
I have to disagree with this statement. Science is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Because of this the whole purpose is to learn all we can about the world, not just what we believe. I will not deny, however, that there are close-minded people who don't want to know anything other than there own beliefs, but these people can never be scientists because of that. |
But, many of those close minded people are scientists. They remain firmly close minded in order to maintain their standing in the scientific community. There are many who lose their standing by rejecting the commonly held scientific opinion. Even when that opinion does not stand up to all objective testing. Or when the evidence fits an opposing theory better than what is commonly accepted. |
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Bear23
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| Well, i for one support what ever has the evidence to back it up. wether or not it is the commonly excepted view. I guees an example of what you said would be when people thought the earth was flat. If i had been there, i would have gone with the evidence. |
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| wasnt this topic originally about evolution? |
Notice this Evolution thread is in the Religion section. That's where it belongs. Because! Some people think evolution created life, the universe and everything. But we know that GOD created everything and that what we call evolution was programmed into life's genetics during the process of creation. What scientists once called "Junk DNA" contains all the adaptations life needs for our changing environment.
I enjoy the scientific method. We've learned a lot since science was invented. But science is limited to this physical reality. The scientific method is useless for learning about things we cannot see, feel, touch, or hear. |
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| okiejack wrote: |
| Notice this Evolution thread is in the Religion section. That's where it belongs. Because! Some people think evolution created life, the universe and everything. But we know that GOD created everything and that what we call evolution was programmed into life's genetics during the process of creation. What scientists once called "Junk DNA" contains all the adaptations life needs for our changing environment. |
Alright i can agree with why the evolution thread is in this section.... but i disagree with 'we' know that god created everything...
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| I enjoy the scientific method. We've learned a lot since science was invented. But science is limited to this physical reality. The scientific method is useless for learning about things we cannot see, feel, touch, or hear. |
This i agree with also. |
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I tend to believe Religion was the Mother of Science in the first place.....and it gave birth to a very rebellious seed, who would turn around and attempt to cannibalize her creator.
Religion, broadly speaking, was at first an attempt of man to view the things in his universe and explain them as best he(she) could...this spirit of investigation is what eventually sparked the desire in man to scrutinize every aspect of the physical world more and more closely, and at some point the two just seemed to part ways...like the teen who knows better than her middle-aged parents... |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: evolution? |
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| why is it that people either belive in evolution or god why not both just because there is proof things happened in a certain order maybe god just didnt think he had to put absoulutly everything in the bible that he did why could things not have happened as they have cause thats how he created it? |
amen
its because they are dumb as hsit...
and think or lack of more so take their own free range of product thinking which is worth hsit in the real domain of reality...it begs for opinion,but opinion has never been worth anything much than to impress the human mind with menial ends to a simple or suggestion question ,never has it ever solved anything complex or complicating maths to which seems unsolvable.. |
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I have no problem believing in both. As for "proving" God exists/doesn't exist, I've always maintained that this question CANNOT be tackled by science. There currently is NO method in the scientific world that can adequately prove/disprove the matter of "God."
The issue of God remains squarely in the realm of philosophy and religion. As I believe was the intention to begin with. |
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