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Majik_Imaje
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Well that is mighty bizarre ! I know lots of Eskimos that are in their 80's most died out here in Point Hope in their 60's due to cancer .
Google Project Chariot or Firecracker boys
They deliberately spread nuclear radio active waste all over this region, to see what effects it would have on the people, the plants & the animals.
300 close friends died !! they were all in their sixties and 70's and up .
I know that from first hand experience of living up here for almost 30 years.
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| Eskimo American have suffered soaring rates of alcoholism, suicide, and crime while jobs have remained scarce. Life expectancy is less than 35 years, and income per capita is less than $1,000 a year. |
That is pure bullship ! Income per capita ?? LMAO ! well for one they receive dividends that are ten times that and it has nothing to do with the oil companies or the federal government !
Half the village of Point Hope is above 50 years old !
Barrow is the largest of all Inupiaq villages not NOME !!
That article is full of mistakes and outright MIS-information.
Native Arts & Crafts are a source for most families to survive, they make 1000 in a day up here!! 1000 a year ??? (chuckle)
You gotta be careful what you beileve on the internet. that article was 90% mistakes and 10 % half truths !!
I am currently in Barrow Alaska working for the Mayor of the City of Barrow to design a web site for ALL VILLAGES and all the artists in each of these villages, We are doing this all for ...........free !
check out first hand and see what these people make and the prices they get.!!! Go to my blog and see what my four sons do at home. 1000 a year ?? I have 4 highschool dropouts that make more bux in a day than most adults make in a month !! It is all documented on my blog how YOU CAN MAKE big bux just read : So Proud part 1 & part 2 read IVORY
I had a 15 year old boy in our shop that has never ever made arts & crafts in his life.. he made over 400 bux in 3 days !! A complete rookie !!
His name is Jermaine Johnson read THAT story !!
My 23 yr old son Mark has been carving since he was 18, he is the only artist on the entire North Slope that can make this design out of Ivory & baleen. those are inset, they are not just glued to the top of the piece. they are inset 3/16" of an inch into that ivory piece.
http://69.49.186.209/
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bloo
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Aquarian.. your information is incorrect. The actual life expectancy of Alaskan Natives is 67 years
Granted... 67 years is still a bit shorter than non-natives, but it's a far cry from 37.
There are many factors that play into their life expectancy and I kind of doubt that the fact that they eat polar bear & whale has much to do with it. Having lived in Alaska myself for many years, I can say with 100% certainty that alcohol & lack of health care play a major role in their shorter life span. Eskimos & alcohol don't mix. For that very reason, many villages are dry (no alcohol allowed). Many of them live far from health care centers & don't run to the DR at the first sign of a runny nose, like most people do. They are also more prone to certain diseases than the average American... meningitis for one. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Majik and bloo-
I was just asking a question because I had read in various places that Eskimos tend to have lower life expectancy and one reason was the 90-100% fat consumption (mostly from whale, bear, seal, etc.)
This site says they're life expectancy is 10 years younger than the rest:
http://www.itk.ca/index.html?q=/media/backgrounder-health.php
But bloo brings up very legitimate points too; lack of healthcare being one of the main ones, I believe.
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Majik_Imaje
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Bloo, how are you ? Long time no type or chat !
Polar Bear meat is something that is very seldom eaten, only because only perhaps 3 each year meet their end in the village.
We can only take them down as a last resort, we always do our best to attempt to get them back out of town onto the ocean ice.
Scientists are puzzled how people can thrive eating a diet consisting mainly of fat with little or no vegetables.
when these people migrated across the land bridge they did not use Umiaqs or skin boats.. they walked across ! It is not that far. they key to this mystery is the word(s) 'land bridge' at the closest point it is only 90 miles to Russia.
Many people in Point Hope have relatives living in Russia. Hilda Weber was a Russian Eskimo that lived here in Point Hope for many decades.
you are looking in all the wrong places for info.. the internet is the biggest mess in the world for finding accurate info.. there is just so much trash and bs out there. !! |
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I doubt the matabolism of a native Eskimo is anything like living in southern California or Florida. If they do consume high amounts of fat, we may consider many times too much for us, they burn that fat off in totally different ways.
What is your point Aquarian? One of your anti hunting or meat consuming points again? This is a fine example of people that do hunt and fish for food still in this world. It is a normal part of many lives you can;t seem to accept. Life in the Arctic circle is not like life in Florida, where even in Florida people fish and eat their catch, but not out of true nessesity like Alaska. Not too many people have vegtable gardens near the north pole.
One thing I would question may be the effects of the 60's open air testing of Nuclear bombs in Siberia by Russia, if that has any factor on mortality rates? fallout in those years was affecting dairy products in Wisconson and other states. |
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Majik_Imaje
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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IN the 1950's the federal goverment wanted to detonate 5 nuclear explsions to create a deep water port for Cape thompson. they were not even going to tell the residents of the village of Point Hope what was about to happen. (23 miles away from this site).
GOOGLE: Project Chariot GOOGLE: FIRECRACKER BOYS
THE WHOLE shamefull mess was stopped. but then they spread radio active waste all over this region, then they watered it, to test what effects it would have on the plants, the animals and people
300 of my closest friends are dead from that experiment and no one is held accountable.
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If you have a JOB for a 29 yr old male.
email this address for more PLEASE...
I am at a point in my life...
Russ@jnrmotorsports.biz
I would love to hear from you...
also Boston born and raised.
I am sick of the RESPECT issue you speak of...
respect died with the constitution.
Your thread here has touched me...Thank you for that,
Russ. |
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| may I come live there with you? I will make my own as any other. I am quite serious |
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Majik_Imaje
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| By the time you arrive in Barrow, I should be long gone !! I travel all over the Arctic, throughout many different villages !! |
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Majik_Imaje
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: Walking around Barrow !! |
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Some of the sights that are in plain view around the village of Barrow. Food being prepared, Skins being cleaned, for the new covers for the skin boats (umiaq). Umiaq's are everywhere you look in this village, some new, some of them, decades old, filled with stories of past whale hunts.
And then, you come across a new umiaq underconstruction. This is a lot of work to build a sea worthy craft, this requires very skilled workmanship.
An umiaq requires the use of 5 or 6 (Oogruk) (Bearded Seal) skins to cover the boat in the correct manner.
Everyplace you walk in this village, you will see, old umiaq wooden frames from boats used long ago. Whaling equipment is visible everyplace you walk and look in Barrow.
Children are in constant training in their own special ways & methods. Whaling is deep ingrained into their spirit !
Living in a whaling village is very exciting, watching the people work, seeing all of the work involved, BEFORE whaling ever gets started. I have said many times in other forums, it takes a whole year.. .. just to get ready to go whaling. The expense(s) that each captain has to invest is just staggering !!
You have absolutely no idea on the incredible amount of work involved to move hundreds of people many miles, and live out on that ice pack for two months time. One whaling captains sled collection. Moving all that is needed to each camp, requires dozens of dangerous trips out to the camp sites. Anything can happen out there, with no warning at all.
Having personally attended & photographed 5 whale hunts, spending a total time of 10 months or more living on that ice pack is a completly different frozen world for sure. There is just no way to put that experience into words that will impart the difficulty of doing the most menial of tasks.
Food is prepared well in advance, Jerky, (Panaqtaq), dried fish, dried caribou, dried Oogruk ribs. This takes many weeks or months depending on how the individual likes it prepared. Some like it soft and some like it very hard. It also depends on the weather, If it is hot and sunny it will only take a few weeks.
Panataq is delicious, I do not like eating fish per say, but dried salmon is absolutely delicious !!!
Lots more to follow.. .. .. soon !! |
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Majik_Imaje
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Well I provide you TRUE stories of what happens here in the Arctic. and for this next story.. it is wierd, it is the arctic and things happen up here without warning and people die suddenly.
This story is easily verifiable. on the internet ! (go figure). The photos above depict what was going on out at sea on this day. for the Brower Crew, Fredrick Brower's crew. Frederick is the young whaling captain. Arnold Brower Sr. Age 86 was a member of this crew that morning, but decided, this boat is too crowded, I am just going to go hunt up by my cabin, and he took off on his snowmachine.
This is a journey that this man has made countless times over more than a handful of decades.. he was capable of doing this blindfolded, in fact he had to as a storm rushed in and he was traveling in white out conditions.. no problem he kept going to his hunting camp. This man was passionate about hunting, this was his life since he was a young child,.. .. traveling over the ice as he always done but this year, the ice was not quite as thick as it should be and his machine went through the ice and he went down into the water... (sigh) !! He managed to climb out and decided the only thing to do was to walk to his cabin a few miles away, sadly he never made it. they found him frozen on the tundra. He leaves behind 18 children that are all still alive !! This GIANT of a man will be sorely missed !
Two days later.. We went back out, Food is a necessity and the only place to obtain their favorite food is back out on that rough ocean. We had some events happen out here, that were totally unexpected, no one got hurt, but the danger is allways present all ways - The exploding harpoon ($1000) per shot ! Twice this thing went off, with the safety still on. but as I said.. no one got hurt.
Here we are.. hunting whales... 3 whales were caught this day, but this crew was not luckly to strike one, so we assisted another Whaling Captain, Jacob Adams.
The Inupiaq Captains do not like to use the exploding harpoon, not for its expense but because if they miss, it prevents the whale from healing as is the manner in which traditional harpoons were used. The chances are much better for the whale to heal.
The exploding harpoon 'shatters' the vertebra or 'breaks the neck' !
you can see on the far left the red "bobber" (avatakpak) to mark the location of the whale !! Success.. ah.. but we had major problems towing this whale back to the village. 4 boats were used. seas were rough, and as usual here in the Arctic. anything can happen at any time with no warning, and it did happen.. the whale got stuck on the bottom of the ocean when we crossed a somewhat shallow portion. 40 tons. stuck. ! how do you get this thing off the land and back into deeper water ?? ??
and from out of no where, once some blood (from the whale is spilled) sea gulls magically appear here, 20 miles out on the ocean from out of no where.
It was a long hard day, from 8 am till 8 pm we finally brought the whale in and people were waiting for us !! More photos to follow & follow !!
Thanks for taking the time.!!
Gotta rest for a bit and process some more images !!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Majik!!!
good to see you still healthy and posting!
i think your photos are some of the most beautiful of such a hard stark place.
and the people and stories you tell are better than any book i have ever read on that area.
my father worked near barrow for a few years..
and i wanted to go, ( way back in the early 70's) but didn't get to..i feel bad.
i am one of those ones, who if i could have tolerated it, stayed for a while..( again, IF i was tough enough)
i like solitude..
and weather..hard weather..
but, now i'm too old for that stuff..
but who knows, i still might sneak a visit..
anyways NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!
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Majik_Imaje
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Thanks evutch, for the kind words. Barrow is easy place to live, everything is so convienient. The best part is that 'heat' for the village is basically FREE !! most months we have to pay nothing. pennies, some months for some reason it is a few bucks.
Lots of old people here in Barrow , this type weather is so refreshing, it feels good to walk in the wind, the air is so clean !!
I am glad you enjoy the photographs.. we have tons more to post !! |
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I'm so jealous you Majik_Imaje  |
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Hey Majik, I'm working in 3ds MAX design 2009, I've made my bone hierarchy suitably, and I have attatched the ragdoll constraints properly and everything but when I preview the animation the guy falls, and goes balistic as soon as he touchs the ground! He spins like a little helicopter. I've turned the elesticity and friction in varying intervals all the way up, all the way down and everywere inbetween, he either goes balistic or he sits on the ground throbbing. He won't sit still.
I've turned the mass from 5 to 10 000 and it makes little difference.
Any help'd be appreciate, figured you played around in 3ds MAX so you might have come across the problem.  |
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