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Nesaie
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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/09/harrisburg_billboard_questions.html
"Imagine No Religion,'' the billboard message from the Freedom from Religion Foundation, has come to Harrisburg.
The invocation of John Lennon's lyrics, set as if in stained glass, greets commuters along a busy city corridor at South Second and Mulberry streets.
The campaign to question religions value is focused mostly on state capitals so legislators will be aware they have a free-thought constituency, said Annie Laurie Gaylor, a co-president of the atheist and agnostic group.
The billboard, to be in place one month, went up Thursday. Its unclear how much stir it will cause in Harrisburg.
The campaign has been to seven sites nationwide in the past year, and Gaylor said the only controversy to erupt was in Chambersburg, where the billboard was up for six months ending last spring. |
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| That's both defamation and libel. Catholic church should sue. |
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Well, that's a bit difficult since the Catholic church "stole" their symbols from someone else.  |
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| That's both defamation and libel. Catholic church should sue. |
Huh? How is that defamation??? I don't get it. Does the Catholic church have a lock on stained glass looking billboards? Is it dafamation to say "imagine" anything?????
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| micki wrote: |
| theking wrote: |
| That's both defamation and libel. Catholic church should sue. |
Huh? How is that defamation??? I don't get it. Does the Catholic church have a lock on stained glass looking billboards? Is it dafamation to say "imagine" anything?????
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I have no issue with the content of the words at all. People are entitled to spread their beliefs as long as it does not harm others or their beliefs/ opinions - in part why I dislike American news media and the blogosphere. However, this is taking content almost totally associated with the Catholic church and defaming it with their own counter-beliefs. They've taken a Catholic symbol and defamed it.
Hardly any different than the Mohammed picture, in which I would agree that the Danish author should also be sued by local Islamic centres - but the threats on his life and the subsequent hiding he went into is far worse than the picture. Not illegal, but it's simply not socially acceptable; in violation of tort. |
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They've taken a Catholic symbol and defamed it.
Hardly any different than the Mohammed picture, in which I would agree that the Danish author should also be sued by local Islamic centres - but the threats on his life and the subsequent hiding he went into is far worse than the picture. Not illegal, but it's simply not socially acceptable; in violation of tort. |
Where/what is the Catholic symbol that is allegedly being defamed?
I sure hope you don't consider stained glass to be a Catholic symbol. |
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I thought stained glass was Islamic. Just look at all these mosques with stained glass.
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Among the earliest man made glass artifacts are Egyptian beads from about 2700 BC. The art proceeded to the first century AD, when Roman artisans were creating glass windows, though the product was irregular and not as transparent as we are accustomed to. The rise and importance of churches sped the craft into the glorious forms that we are familiar with. At St. Paul's Monastery in Jarrow, England (founded in 686 A.D.), multiples pieces of colored window glass were unearthed by archaeologists. Although there are examples of early stained glass windows, such as those from Augsburg Cathedral, the search continues for the earliest surviving examples.
Arabian filigree windows moved into Europe as the Moors entered Spain. Originally the glass, which appeared in the tenth century, were simply pieces inserted into marble or stone or glazed in plaster. To strengthen the bindings, iron ribs were added. As the colored glass attracted builders, the fashion moved farther north, into latitudes that required more substantial settings to endure severe weather conditions.
Glass fragments, discovered from sites dated to 540 A.D. in Italy, include an image of Christ. Another small window, which included the popular Alpha and Omega symbols was unearthed in France and the site dated to 1000 A.D. The head of Christ became an increasingly popular image, a notable example found near Wissembourg, Alsace from 1068. As the earliest Christians, who had long been persecuted, began to feel safer, they moved from building secret spots of worship in their homes or beneath the earth, to building churches to house relics of the saints. The rulers of church and state sent emissaries to the Holy Land to bring back works of art, carved ivory, and jewels, including precious colored glass. Christian art, borrowed and advanced the techniques as the need to enhance buildings of worship came into fashion.
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Pieces of coloured glass held in place by thin strips of metal (usually lead) to form pictures in a window. One of the great medieval arts, it developed with the increase of window space in the Gothic church, and to some extent serves the same purpose as a wall-painting, with the added richness given by translucence and the variations of light piercing through from outside.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0018177.html |
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